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Probiotic health claims unproven

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Postby Woodsage » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:12 pm

I was always suspicious of those tiny expensive probiotic yoghurts, looks like I might have been right.
Grauniad wrote:Probiotic health claims ruled unproven - European Food Safety Authority says claims regarding immune system and digestive health lack sound scientific basis.
The food industry's probiotics sector, worth £200m a year in the UK, was called in to question today by a new European ruling that its health claims are unsupported by sound science...The panel concluded that the evidence the industry had submitted to support its claims that various food additives could strengthen the body's defences, improve immune function and reduce gut problems were either so general as to be inadmissable, or could not be shown to have the claimed effect.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/oct/19/efsa-rules-probiotic-health-claims-unproven
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Re: Probiotic health claims unproven

Postby cursuswalker » Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:39 am

Woodsage wrote:I was always suspicious of those tiny expensive probiotic yoghurts, looks like I might have been right.
Grauniad wrote:Probiotic health claims ruled unproven - European Food Safety Authority says claims regarding immune system and digestive health lack sound scientific basis.
The food industry's probiotics sector, worth £200m a year in the UK, was called in to question today by a new European ruling that its health claims are unsupported by sound science...The panel concluded that the evidence the industry had submitted to support its claims that various food additives could strengthen the body's defences, improve immune function and reduce gut problems were either so general as to be inadmissable, or could not be shown to have the claimed effect.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/oct/19/efsa-rules-probiotic-health-claims-unproven


I long suspected as much. I mean look at the size of the human gut, and consider all the lovely bacteria that are meant to be in it all the time (which are the reason why decomposition apparently first shows its advanced stages at the stomach area, as they start to consume the body).

And a small pot of yogurt is meant to make a serious impact on that population? Really?
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Re: Probiotic health claims unproven

Postby simonchadwick » Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:52 pm

Amazing stomach-acid-resistant bacteria!
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Re: Probiotic health claims unproven

Postby Chairman Bill » Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:08 pm

Given the shit that spews out of Gillian MacKeith's mouth on issues of nutrition, it can only be a matter of time before she advocates eating it. Whoops! Who'd have thunk ... but from the other end ;)
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Re: Probiotic health claims unproven

Postby Alioth » Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:49 am

It's not inconceivable that some bacteria can survive stomach acid -- after all, how does food poisoning happen?

I too am skeptical that probiotic yogurt could have much effect on a person with healthy gut flora, but it seems more reasonable to use it in cases where the normal flora have been decimated by something (either competition from Evil Bacteria, or just some antibiotic).
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