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Charles Darwin And Homeopathy

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Charles Darwin And Homeopathy

Postby chris » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:28 pm

Because I'm having a break from work and am a little bored - thought you might be interested! It's amusing, at any rate, and passes the time.

From 1837 Charles Darwin was frequently incapacitated with stomach pains, vomiting, severe boils, heart palpitations and trembling. In one of his letters he wrote that he could not able to work for one day in every three and was "altogether too dispirited to write". His declining health prevented him from attending his own father's funeral 11 years later in 1848 - by which time he was also suffering from fainting spells and spots before his eyes. In fact, he believed he was dying. (There has been modern medical speculation as to Darwin's pathology - some theories believe he may have caught Chapas disease from insect bites in South America, others that he had a severe case of Menieres disease, and yet more that say he may have had systemic lactose intolerance .... but nobody really knows. It wasn't nice, anyway, poor man.)

Finally, in 1849 he sought treatment in Malvern from a Dr James Manby Gully, a physician who owned a hydrotherapy spa. Dr Gully was initially recommended to Darwin by Captain Sullivan of HMS Beagle, and his cousin William Darwin Fox who knew two friends who had benefitted by Dr Gully's care. Gully was a medical graduate of Edinburgh university, and (like Darwin who had given up the study of medicine at the same place because he hated the brutality of surgery and the dubious science behind primitive prescribing) disliked much of then current medical practice. Gully was also a homeopath.

Poor old Darwin must have been desperate by then. He had seen a number of conventional physicians who had failed to alleviate any of his symptoms. He was so desperate, in fact, that he took his entire family to Malvern (150 miles away from where they lived, which is a long old way by horse and carriage especially if you keep being sick all the time) where they stayed for several months. After being at Gully's spa for 9 days, Darwin lamented about being given prescriptions of homeopathic remedies, although he still took them.

Charles Darwin wrote:I grieve to say that Dr Gully gives me homeopathic medicines three times a day, which I take obediently without an atom of faith.


However, just a few days later Darwin wrote:

Charles Darwin wrote:I have already received so much benefit that I really hope my health will be much renovated.


After 8 days a skin eruption broke out all over Darwin's legs, which pleased him as he had already noticed his physical symptoms and low mental state were improved if such a thing happened. He went a whole month without vomiting (unusual for him) and gained weight. He surprised himself by being able to walk 7 miles. After a month of treatment he admitted Gully was not a quack after all. After 16 weeks he felt like a new man, and soon after returned home to get on with his work. Seven years later in 1856 he acknowledged that Gully's treatment was so successful that "never (or almost never" the vomiting returns".

However, Darwin was still extremely sceptical about homeopathy:

Charles Darwin wrote:You speak about homeopathy, which is a subject which makes me even more wrath even than does claivoyance. Clairvoyance so transcends belief, that one's own ordinary faculties are put out of the question, but in homeopathy common sense and common observation come into play, and both these must go to the dogs, if the infinitesimal doses have any effect whatsoever.


Obviously, as Darwin himself believed, it was the water (hydrotherapy) that did it.

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Re: Charles Darwin And Homeopathy

Postby simonchadwick » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:34 pm

Malverns is a nice place to recuperate too!
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Re: Charles Darwin And Homeopathy

Postby chris » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:35 pm

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Re: Charles Darwin And Homeopathy

Postby cursuswalker » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:37 am

Good to see he was an all round sceptic :D

Healthy stuff and good nutrition I suspect done it. Just like the anti-vaxers allege re. diseases.
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Re: Charles Darwin And Homeopathy

Postby chris » Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:26 am

Could well be the case.

Hydrotherapy in those days was rather rigorous. The day began at 6am with a practice called "packing" where the patient was wrapped in wet sheets and covered with eiderdowns. They were then unwrapped at 7am, given a cold shower (ascending or descending) and then rubbed down briskly with rough towels. (Descending showers consisted of standing or lying under a 20 foot drop of cold Malvern water from a spout which could be aimed at certain parts of the bodily anatomy, ascending showers were basically cold colonic irrigation.) Then it was off to head for the hills, walking in turn to each spring or well and having a glass of water there. I think there are 5 altogether, and the ascents to some are steep. The really poorly were allowed to ride on donkeys until they were well enough to walk. And, of course, all this went hand in hand with a really strict diet, very similar to radical detox diets of today.

Of course, there will be those who say without homeopathy Darwin would never have written the Origin Of Species. :naughty: But equally well, in my part of the world, there are those who similarly ascribe his Awen to the time he spent working with the complex geology of the Welsh countryside. :lol:
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Re: Charles Darwin And Homeopathy

Postby chris » Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:47 am

And of course there are several other "modern" therapies that could also lay claim to "their" methodology "curing" Charles - colonic irrigation being one.

Cursus, daahling, it seems to me we have not yet got a "Health" section on this noble forum where we could put all the stuff about homeopathy and reiki and vaccination and woo woo and dietary supplements and serious science. Would it be nice to have one? I would even moderate it ...... but only provided I didn't have to swap my feasting hall for a shield. I'm not doing that. Some things are just TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much.
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Re: Charles Darwin And Homeopathy

Postby cursuswalker » Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:45 pm

chris wrote:And of course there are several other "modern" therapies that could also lay claim to "their" methodology "curing" Charles - colonic irrigation being one.

Cursus, daahling, it seems to me we have not yet got a "Health" section on this noble forum where we could put all the stuff about homeopathy and reiki and vaccination and woo woo and dietary supplements and serious science. Would it be nice to have one? I would even moderate it ...... but only provided I didn't have to swap my feasting hall for a shield. I'm not doing that. Some things are just TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much.


WHAT ABOUT......a sub-forum in the science section until we see if it takes off?

I think this could be a forum section with legs.
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Re: Charles Darwin And Homeopathy

Postby chris » Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:18 pm

cursuswalker wrote:
chris wrote:And of course there are several other "modern" therapies that could also lay claim to "their" methodology "curing" Charles - colonic irrigation being one.

Cursus, daahling, it seems to me we have not yet got a "Health" section on this noble forum where we could put all the stuff about homeopathy and reiki and vaccination and woo woo and dietary supplements and serious science. Would it be nice to have one? I would even moderate it ...... but only provided I didn't have to swap my feasting hall for a shield. I'm not doing that. Some things are just TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much.


WHAT ABOUT......a sub-forum in the science section until we see if it takes off?

I think this could be a forum section with legs.


It could be quite interesting.

And I agree, a sub forum to science would be a good place to begin.

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Re: Charles Darwin And Homeopathy

Postby cursuswalker » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:06 pm

One Health and Healing section on its way! :trilby:
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Re: Charles Darwin And Homeopathy

Postby chris » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:35 pm

Any excuse to have a hug .....

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